BOOK: The Sorcerer's Stone
CHAPTERS: 16 & 17
SYNOPSIS: Harry, Ron, and Hermione descend beneath the trapdoor in a race to beat Snape to the Sorcerer's Stone. Once below, they are greeted with a shocking surprise.
What are your overall thoughts on Book 1?
FOR TOMORROW: Chamber of Secrets, Chapters 1 & 2
**Sorry guys! My neighbors have been stealing my bandwidth and I wasn't able to get the internet working for almost two whole days! This one's a bit late so I'm doing two days worth of discussion posts at once, but hopefully it won't happen again!**
I wanted to post a little something about this book that will be spoilery for the series, including book 7. So, without further ado...
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Alright, it's about Snape. I find it intensely hard to believe that Voldemort would have still thought Snape was loyal to him after this little stunt. He knows damn good and well what Quirrel is up to and makes no secret of the fact that he's aiming to stop him. I understand why Voldemort would not want to possess as loyal a follower as he supposed Snape to be, by why wouldn't he tap that follower if he had the chance? He doesn't even hesitate to take him back into the fold in book five, so why doesn't he reach out to him here? Could it have anything to do with the fact that Snape is hounding Quirrel rather than helping him?
So why, then, does he just accept, without question, that Snape was really loyal to him the whole time and it was just an act when he was THERE to SEE that it wasn't?
I guess the argument is that Voldemort didn't know if he really was loyal at the time, and since he didn't want to take the chance of exposing himself to an enemy, he never reached out, which I can kind of get. But I still think it's odd that he would just blindly trust the guy after seeing it with his own eyes, you know?
Sidenote: that's how I always knew Snape would wind up good. It would have been super easy for him to get his master the stone, but he spent an awful lot of energy trying to make sure that didn't happen.
I agree there are a few problems here. For example, why on earth if
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Snape is such an accomplished occlumens/legilimens, did he not know that Quirrel had Voldemort growing out of the back of his head? Are we really to believe that no trace of Voldy's thoughts ever reached Snape? And if Snape did really know, why didn't anyone (i.e. Dumbledore) do something about it? How could none of them have known, when Dumbledore seems to know everything that's going on?
I know right?
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If it was me, I'd have wanted to put Quirrel into a little wizard proof box or something until they figured out how to kill voldemort. I mean, if he's growing out of his head, he's pretty defenseless. True they didn't know about the horcruxes then but still!
More spoilers abound...
ReplyDeleteBut I think Dumbledore did know about the horcruxes already or at least suspected them.
Good point about Voldemort just letting Snape back in though. Maybe it was because he simply needed his powerful allies even if he didn't trust them at all? He couldn't kill them all because he needed them. He made a few examples and really they were all betraying him in some way or other.
RowanWitch of The Spooky Group
Hmm...I don't think Dumbledore knew about them until the second book with Riddle's diary. I think he maybe suspected something was up, but wasn't sure exactly what.
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ReplyDeleteSince we're all doing spoilers now, I'll add my little bit, too. In book six, if you really read and study the exchange between Bellatrix and Snape, he makes a good point especially when he asks her would he still be alive if he hadn't been able to answer all the very same questions for Voldemort. He also alludes that many of Voldy's main and strongest followers thought he was gone, and asks where the Dark Lord would be if he hadn't forgiven his best supporters. Actually, that exchange was the first time I had doubts about Snape...because always before, I had thought he would actually come around being Dumbledore's man. Time proved what it proved, though, but for a bit... =)
HW
Sorry for the double post, but I forgot one of the things I wanted to say. This is also a spoiler:
ReplyDeleteRemember that Voldy is supposed to be the worlds best occlumens and legilimens ever...if Voldy had had any doubts about Snape (and if he DIDN'T kill him right away), he would have employed occlumens any time Snape was anywhere even close to Quirrell, thereby shutting off/out Snape's ability to be a legilimens to Quirrell. I also think Dumbledor knew Quirrell was in Voldy's pocket... otherwise, why would he have told Snape to keep an eye on him? (Snape's memories in book 7).
There you have it, from my point of view.
HW